2008 CANADA ELECTION

14 October 2008

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MISSISSAUGA-STREETSVILLE

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2008 CANDIDATES

INCUMBENT
WAJID
KHAN
BONNIE CROMBIE KEITH
PINTO
OTTO CASANOVA RALPH
BUNAG
VIKTOR SPANOVIC

MISSISSAUGA-STREETSVILLE
2006 RESULTS

Candidate Party Vote Count Vote Share
Wajid Khan 23913 45.95%
Raminder Gill 18121 34.82%
James Caron 6929 13.31%
Otto Casanova 2334 4.48%
Peter Creighton 747 1.44%

MISSISSAUGA-STREETSVILLE
2004 RESULTS

Candidate Party Vote Count Vote Share
Wajid Khan LPC 22768 50.56%
Nina Tangri CPC 14287 31.73%
Manjinder Rai NDP 4266 9.47%
Otto Casanova 2415 5.36%
Peter Gibson Creighton 1293 2.87%

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62 Responses for "MISSISSAUGA-STREETSVILLE"

  1. Vijay Sappani September 14th, 2008 at 6:39 pm 1

    Will stay red with Bonnie Crombie, the Liberal candidate. Long time Liberal with a well funded adn well organized campaign. The Muslims in the riding will vote against Wajid Khan.

  2. darryl tempest September 15th, 2008 at 6:32 am 2

    Bonnie will take back this riding and show real leadership for the people of Mississauga Streetsville.

  3. Nick J Boragina September 17th, 2008 at 12:56 am 3

    So long as the tories keep up current poll numbers they’ll win this riding on the numbers alone (IE they’d win it if Khan did not exist). with the sitting MP on their side, it’s an added bonus.

  4. Viktor Spanovic September 17th, 2008 at 6:44 am 4

    hey everyone,

    i’m an independent candidate in the riding. if you live in the riding and i haven’t come to your house yet, you can check me out at voteforviktor.ca. thanks.

  5. Adrena Lynn September 17th, 2008 at 1:55 pm 5

    Are the NDP running a candidate in this riding? I haven’t heard anything from them yet.

  6. Viktor Spanovic September 17th, 2008 at 4:50 pm 6

    As of two days ago, yes. Keith Pinto. They originally weren’t going to because they required their candidates here to pay their own way.

  7. Josh Wilkens September 18th, 2008 at 7:16 am 7

    Bonnie has no chance, “if” Dion remains a disaster

  8. Jay kesh September 22nd, 2008 at 8:16 pm 8

    Bonnie has two problems, one is Mr. Dion and second she has no agenda. She has more signs but less support. It is clear so far that Khan is winning.

  9. Art Wellesley September 23rd, 2008 at 12:12 am 9

    VijaySappani’s commented on every race in peel region with simplistic messages of Liberal support. I wonder who’s paying him…

  10. R. Dekic September 24th, 2008 at 11:52 am 10

    Bonnie had a good start but unfortunately losing support each day. She wan counting on anti Wajid voters but Khan is continuously winning support of ‘angry’ voters. As of today Bonnie has no chance. Skies are blue here.

  11. Josh Wilkens September 25th, 2008 at 4:52 am 11

    Im hearing that Harper is coming to Streetsville to seal the deal.

  12. Viktor Spanovic September 25th, 2008 at 6:25 am 12

    Why is everyone discounting the Independent? Doesn’t anyone love an underdog??

  13. Adrena Lynn September 25th, 2008 at 9:08 am 13

    Yes, Viktor. Everyone does love an underdog, they just don’t think they can win.

    And don’t think you can compare yourself to Pierre Poliviere like you did on CPAC. Pierre was young, but he ran with a party that was popular in the particular riding he ran in.

    You seem like a nice guy, but I’m afraid you stand no chance in hell.

  14. Viktor Spanovic September 25th, 2008 at 3:43 pm 14

    I didn’t compare myself with Poilievre in terms of my chances of winning. I mentioned him to show that young MPs can be very hard working, as was exemplified by the fact that he was voted hardest working MP.

  15. Vijay Sappani September 28th, 2008 at 8:12 am 15

    Art Wellesley, vijay sappani is well enough that he doens’t need anyone to throw bones at him and money can’t buy him.He is commenting on ridings that he has worked and understands the dynamics and it is well known that he is a big Liberal supporter, but does not blindly endorse every candidate. Only those who are good for the country and the residents. Bonnie is one of them.

  16. Viktor Spanovic September 28th, 2008 at 8:16 am 16

    Vijay, I can tell you from my canvassing that a lot of muslim houses have khan signs on their lawn. Also, bonnie is not a good candidate. She’s just another typical liberal. Did you watch the debate? She couldn’t control herself there and i’d hate to see her in the house of commons. She’s the next carolyn parrish.

  17. Art Wellesley September 28th, 2008 at 5:12 pm 17

    Evidently Vijay Sappani’s wellness (unless he meant to say that he was well off) is surpassed only by his love of third person narrative. It is very myopic to claim that on the sole basis of a well-funded and well organized campaign and retaining the islamic vote that Bonnie will win. Due to the importance of Streetsville to the Tories it only goes to reason that money and good organizers were pumped in to the riding. And last time I checked there aren’t enough pakistani’s (as most of Streetsville’s Muslims are) to decide the vote.

  18. Adrena Lynn September 28th, 2008 at 5:58 pm 18

    Interesting, Viktor. You think Bonnie couldn’t control herself because she happened to be displaying emotion. I wonder what you would say if she was a man? Maybe you think she’s just having a hot flash like Marilyn Churley?

    I’ve met Bonnie, and 90% of the time she’s pretty level headed. It’s only because they put her next to Khan that she was like that :-)

  19. Viktor Spanovic September 28th, 2008 at 8:27 pm 19

    I don’t think it’s fair that I can’t criticise Bonnie without sexism being implied. If it helps, I can assure you I’m not a fan of Khan’s either. I’ve met her too, and as far as I’m concerned I think she’s a typical political phoney. You’ve probably only met Bonnie ‘the candidate’. I’ve met Bonnie ‘the person’.

  20. Mohammad Ahmed Shah September 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm 20

    Khan will win again and he should win. we muslims always supported liberals and they took us for-granted. I am also offened the way Bonnie is perfoming the Drama to get muslim votes, going to different Muslim houses and worship places wearing black suit like muslim womens, and also she did joined a prayer at one of the mosque ( have done some ups and downs, I am wondring why she was doing it). Did she changed her faith and converted to be a muslim or this is just for time being to win muslime votes. Have she ever been to any mosque before she has started this election thing ? Let me assure every one yes some of our brothers and sisters were unhappy with Mr. Khan but not any more 90% of the muslim community is still with Mr khan. Oct 14 is the day to show you the results..

  21. Adrena Lynn September 29th, 2008 at 2:31 am 21

    Mohammad, what are you talking about?

    Since when did this race suddenly become some kind of culture war? I don’t think she’s changed her faith, she’s just going to places where most of the Muslim community happen to convene. I find it demeaning that the best thing you can use against Bonnie is what she wears or how she acts. What are you? In grade school?

    And if 90% of Muslims are going to vote for Khan just because he’s a Muslim, that saids something about the collective mentality of Muslim Canadians when it comes to voting in elections.

  22. Viktor Spanovic September 29th, 2008 at 6:47 am 22

    lol i’m with mohammad. but it’s not just the muslims that liberals take for granted, it’s everyone. also, bonnie’s pandering is absolutely shameless. i started laughing when i read about her in a mosque. like i said, a typical political phoney.

  23. Adrena Lynn September 29th, 2008 at 7:31 am 23

    Unfortunately, most days politicians have to do some degree of pandering to get the votes. How else do you expect to do any better in a riding with over 50 minority groups?

    And if there’s another Carolyn Parrish in the House, GREAT! Four years of Khan was extremely boring representation. But, I’m pretty sure Bonnie’s not crazy enough to stomp on a George Bush doll.

  24. Adrena Lynn September 29th, 2008 at 2:16 pm 24

    Hey, Greg. Last time this riding was projected with Cons edging with 39% and Liberals 37%, LIBERAL Wajid Khan ended up winning with 46% (+9 pts) and Cons ended up with 35% (-4 pts). I sense there may be the similar inaccuracy come election day.

    Of course, one would have to factor in other variables such as the national polls, and Wajid’s floor crossing. I spoke to a friend who usually votes Tory but can’t this time because of Khan. So that’s always a good sign.

  25. Viktor Spanovic September 29th, 2008 at 6:37 pm 25

    Well, call me old fashioned but I’d like to see candidates earn votes the old fashioned way, with character and good ideas. But I guess if you don’t have any of either…
    If you’re a candidate, tell me what you’re going to do for me. Don’t pay lip service to my religion or nationality.
    Also, we’re electing based on entertainment value now?

  26. Adrena Lynn September 29th, 2008 at 7:36 pm 26

    Sorry, when I meant boring representation, I mean Khan lacked passion in advocating for his constituents. I think Bonnie may bring some degree of passion to the House. I’m not saying she’s going to be like a Trudeau, but it’d be interesting.

  27. Alex September 30th, 2008 at 6:13 am 27

    Viktor honestly what are you? Fresh out of University… I mean I’m sure you are a nice guy and all but don’t you think it would be a bit more wise to get like a year or two of experience before you start shamelessly preaching to people door to door that you can represent them in Parliament?

    Bonnie Crombie is a much better person than any of you are making her out to be. She is a highly educated woman and yes a long time Liberal. Being a long time Liberal however does not make her a Party Phony. All the leading Liberal Leadership candidates revere her and they have all been in the riding to help her out. Dion has been three times since the start of the election. She also trounced Khan in the debate, and of course emotional was a part of it, the man betrayed a riding he never lived in!

    Every prediction website and public opinion poll has this called for the Grits, unless hell freezes over and Khan somehow becomes respectable, this is an east gain for the Libs.

  28. Viktor Spanovic September 30th, 2008 at 7:17 am 28

    Yes, I am fresh out of university, and yes, as an independent, I AM the only one who can claim to represent the riding in Parliament.
    The Liberal brass hasn’t come to the riding because they REVERE her, they’ve done so because this is a swing riding.
    Also, Bonnie doesn’t live in the riding either. As the only candidate who actually lives in the riding, I’M the only one Khan actually betrayed. And believe it or not, as much as I despise him, I’d still rather see him win over Bonnie because a)the Liberals are an absolutely useless opposition and b)I’ve met the ‘real’ Bonnie(not the campaign Bonnie which I’m sure you know), and she’s just not a nice person.

  29. Josh Scheerer September 30th, 2008 at 8:54 am 29

    I told myself I’d never vote strategically again, but I’m afraid Harper is taking Canada down a dangerous path. I’m a huge Green Party supporter, but I may have to cast my vote for Bonnie Crombie, and the Liberals. We’ll see what the polls are like in two weeks.

    P.S. A carbon tax, and an economic shift towards low-carbon initiatives is paramount to avoiding a recession.

    P.P.S. Watch the debates this week!!!

  30. Alex September 30th, 2008 at 10:43 am 30

    Well Viktor, I happen to be Bonnie’s eldest son and have lived with her for the past 19 years so I kind of thing i’ve gotten a glimpse of what you label, “the real bonnie.”

    We happen to live just a few block south of the riding so please dont try to pull that parachute argument. Khan lives in downtown Toronto! We as a family have been very involved in the riding, prior to the election. I have played sports in Mississauga Streetsville and my mother has been involved in a number of charities and businesses in the riding.

    I’m really interested to hear about your experiences that would label my mother, “just not a nice person.”

  31. Josh Wilkens September 30th, 2008 at 11:27 am 31

    All the leading Liberals revere her?

    Stephen Harper, Laureen Harper, Jason Kenney, Jim Flaherty, Diane Finley, Rob Nicholson and more than another 10 Ministers have all visited Streetsville in the last 2 months! Are you saying that the conservatives don’t support Mississauga? Or is it just the Liberals who do?

    All the leading Liberals are in opposition and will remain in opposition for quite some time.

    Dion is the Leader and will plunge the country into economic disaster “if” he were elected.

    What will Bonnie be able to achieve for Mississauaga or anyone, if she is a backbench MP in a broken down Liberal Party which has no money is out of real ideas that matter and in the middle of another nasty leadership race???

    I will tell you: She will be on the front lines of the Iggy leadership campaign…..

    not representing the riding…

    so please cut the crap…..

    I know the “real” Bonnie Crombie and the “real” Brian Crombie………

    Don’t get me started.

  32. Adrena Lynn September 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm 32

    Great comeback, Alex. I’d like to see Viktor respond to that. And Viktor, seriously what qualifications besides being an Independent can you put forward that would suggest that you have the experience, temperament, and knowledge to represent people in our Parliament?

    Bonnie’s given us her background and experiences, and unfortunately so has Wajid Khan. Seriously, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YOU

  33. Viktor Spanovic September 30th, 2008 at 4:11 pm 33

    As far as experience goes, Bonnie and myself have just as much MP experience. Also, Alex, I really don’t think you’re the most objective person to be commenting on Bonnie’s character.
    What makes her not a nice person? Well the fact that she cheated on her campaign fundraising and blamed a 14 year-old(who does that?)

    Blue Blogging Soapbox

    Also, I really didn’t care for the comment she made to me after our debate.
    And Lynn, if there’s anything you’d like to know about me or my ideas that you can’t find on my website or in my platform, feel free to ask.

  34. Adrena Lynn September 30th, 2008 at 6:00 pm 34

    Well, Viktor I’ve read your platform, and there are some intriguing ideas on it. I just have a question regarding your proposal of offering university courses online. I think it’s a great idea, and that it would help alleviate some of the stresses that students go through every day.

    I’m not sure if I have my facts wrong here, but since we do not have any form of nationalized post secondary education services, isn’t it up to individual universities to determine, through their own faculty bodies, as to how they deliver their curriculum to prospective and current students? I have serious doubts as to how even an NDP government would be able to convince all universities to pull of something like that.

  35. Nikita Escobar September 30th, 2008 at 8:01 pm 35

    So let me understand some things Vik,
    1. You claim to be independent, but you say that out of the two people who have the best chance at winning you support the one who lives in a different city, crossed the floor and..oh yah is a Conservative;
    2. You spend your time going through conservative attack Blogs and don’t know the facts (have you confronted the Crombie campaign to know what really went on with the community BBQ she organized? sometimes lies get out as truth);
    3. You play the Sarah Palin defence on experience, saying that as an MP you are tied with Crombie, but in reality we know that neither of you have been elected just like we know that you have not held any post of serious management or responsibility;
    4. You insult Crombie for not currently living in the ridding when she lives so close you can walk and you claim to want to be like your hero Pierre Poilievre (who by the way is an Albertan who ran in Ontario, there is a “tiny” gap there)
    5. You take the morally high road on wanting to discuss issues and not entertainment value but when it comes down to it you insult Mrs. Crombie (the cancer fighter) for having a “bad” personality in your mind, when you know nothing of her personality and the longest time spent with her is at a all candidates debate.

    How can you lead?
    Would you even know how to get visas for your constituents or deal with immigration, how would you know the dealing of a nation your biggest accomplishment so far has been graduating.

    Don’t get me wrong your a good KID…come back to us when you have something substantial to offer.

  36. M Ribeiro October 1st, 2008 at 7:15 am 36

    Bonnie Crombie knocked on my door about a month ago, and after meeting her, I can tell you that I will not vote for her. I found her to be negative, with no substance. She basically told me that the main reason I should vote for her is because Khan crossed the floor to the Conservatives and so he could not be trusted.

    I reminded her that the Liberals were the biggest benefactors of floor crossers and Party crossers (Stronach, Turner, Keith Martin, Brison, Dosanj, Bob Rae to name a few). I asked her whether she also believed that these fellow Liberals could not be trusted, and whether she would ask the party to dismiss them. She gave me a blank look, struggled to find words and never answered my question. She seemed surprised that I would be so up on politics, and that I did not buy her illogical position, which is also a statement on how little regard she has for the knowledge of the voters. Realizing that I was speaking to someone who was obviously working from negative message speaking points and had no intention of discussing real issues, I politley accepted her literature and thanked her for making my decision an easy one.

  37. M Ribeiro October 1st, 2008 at 7:56 am 37

    Hey Vijay, I’m new to this site and did a quick review of the Mississauga ridings to see what folks were saying. I noticed that you placed pretty much the same message on every riding page: “Liberals will win this election”. You wouldn’t be a Liberal Party organizer would you? Not that it dismisses you from participating in these forums, but surely you can come up with something better, that actually promotes democratic dialogue.

    If you are affiliated with the Liberals, I also wonder if the Liberal party supports your attempt to divide people along religious lines (reference your comment above about Muslim voting patterns). This is dangerous, divisive, and unacceptable.

  38. Viktor Spanovic October 1st, 2008 at 8:29 am 38

    To Lynn: no, there’s no nationalised uni system. what i think we have to do is convince the provinces to address funding on a case by case basis. if we simply suggest it, and provide the incentive (funding), they really wouldn’t have much reason not to play along.

    To Nikita:…too many points to contradict. I’ll pick a couple. First, reread what I said. I didn’t criticise Bonnie for not living in the riding. I simply said Wajid Khan isn’t her MP. Doesn’t matter how close you are to the riding, he still isn’t your MP.

    The fact that the site is sponsored by conservatives doesn’t really change the fact that everything there is true. The Crombie campaign already gave their side of the story. “It’s the 14 year-olds fault.” Do you really think any credible campaign has a 14 year-old making their flyers? Or that he simply made that up on his own? If you want to be a fan of someone’s, fine. But at least think rationally enough to see that even they break the rules sometimes.

    And yes, between the two of them I’d rather see Khan win. As MUCH as I hate him, you can’t deny the fact that he’d be more effective. Will Bonnie be doing anything other than sitting as a backbencher begging for handouts?
    Ask yourself this question. Does Bonnie put forth any free solutions to our problems? Or is she just going there like every other MP to ask the government to throw money at problems?

    As for me, I think this tete-a-tete is destroying the spirit of what democraticspace was created for. If anyone has any further questions feel free to e-mail me.

  39. NGreene October 2nd, 2008 at 4:43 pm 39

    I was just reading a Liberal blogger who mentioned something about a SEC investigation involving Biovail and Crombie’s husband, is this true? I am suprised I haven’t heard more about this in Streetsville, I must look into this further.

  40. Mike October 2nd, 2008 at 8:01 pm 40

    Hey Greene, by SEC I assume you mean Securities Exchange Commission in the US?

    Please post whatever you find
    Thx

  41. NGreene October 3rd, 2008 at 10:34 am 41

    Here is some information I have found so far,

    http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-50.htm
    http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20506.htm
    http://theliberalbag.blogspot.com/2008/03/liberal-bag-is-mildly-famous.html

    I wonder why the media hasn’t picked up on this yet?

  42. Mike October 3rd, 2008 at 2:42 pm 42

    Wow this stuff is incredible! We can argue whether BC knew or didn’t know, and what her duty was, but speaking for myself, if my spouse was involved in anything like this, I think I’d know.

    Where has the media been? I guarantee you if this was a Conservative, it would have been on the front page of the Mississauga News and the Star.

  43. Shamir Ramji October 4th, 2008 at 7:21 am 43

    Khan is a Muslim but it bewilders me why any Muslim would ever consider voting Conservative. The spread of Right wing Conservativism in the form of Bush, Harper, Howard has made millions of innocent Muslims unsafe and the targets of racism. Khan will be a puppet in the Conservative party. People like Wajid Khan and Rahim Jaffer are used to court Muslim votes but people like Harper, Baird and Flaherty control all the shots and are basically laughing and making fun of their own ethnic candidates behind their backs.

  44. Mike October 4th, 2008 at 1:58 pm 44

    Shamir, the biggest threat to religious freedom is not right wing or left wing extremism. It is people like you using religion to divide. Canada is about bringing people together of all races and religions, and giving them the freedom to vote and choose based on free will and independence. Voting should not be based on fear or a false religious obligation. Muslims, Christians, Jews, Sikhs, Hindus, Bhuddists and others vote for all parties. We can disagree on the issues, but we should never make religion the basis of our disagreement. Your careless attempt at fear mongering is dangerous and may I add un-Canadian.

  45. Black Voter October 5th, 2008 at 7:54 pm 45

    Race based voting is coming to a riding near you. Many Muslims and those in the black community are SICK of Liberals taking us for granted. Another bleeding HEART Liberal is the last thing we need. Many black leaders in the riding support Mr. Khan.

    Khan will win by about 5%.

  46. Viktor Spanovic October 6th, 2008 at 2:59 pm 46

    I’d like to amend my earlier comment.
    The Crombie campaign was never PROVEN to have cheated in their campaign fundraising.
    However, if you’d like to know if a credible campaign really has an unsupervised 14 year-old making their flyers, you’ll have to ask them yourselves because they never gave me an answer.

  47. sara October 6th, 2008 at 7:00 pm 47

    After reading the discussion here as well as the local candidate platforms & websites–I know that I will not be voting for Crombie or Khan. There is a lot of evidence pointing to shady dealings here…

  48. Mike October 7th, 2008 at 7:58 am 48

    Ok, on this Khan floor crossing thing. I’ve heard candidates at the door making it an issue. I’ve read about it in the media and decided to do my own research on the subject without the influencers on both sides. I have done that. To assess whether this is an issue or just a campaign ploy, I would put an open question to Bonnie Crombie. We know her son frequents this forum, so I’m sure she is aware of what people are saying.

    Bonnie:
    Let’s say you are elected as a Liberal, and sit in opposition. In a few months, Prime Minister Harper decides he wants to start a committee to develop a bold and new strategy to fight cancer. He wants Canada to be a leader in thsi area. Based on your past commitment and resume working for this cause, he asks you to take on the leadership of this committee. He doesn’t care that you are a Liberal, he just wants the best person. He makes the non partisan choice and wants the best person for the country, not the party. You check with your Leader and he agrees that you should take this opportunity. You get into the role for several months and feel that you are really contributing to the cause. The leadership of your party changes and the new Leader now believes that as a Liberal you should not be working with the governing Conservatives. He then gives you an ultimatum, through the media no less. Quit the post, or quit the party. You know that you are serving your country in an area that you feel passionate about, but your Leader wants you to put party politics ahead of the interests of the country. What do you do?

    If your answer is what I hope it would be, you put the country first, then you have no grounds to criticize Khan. From what I have read, this is precisely what happened to Khan. Having been put in a positon by Dion to choose between country and party, he chose country and in the process realized that the Dion led Liberals had very different values from his own.

    What’s your choice Bonnie?

  49. Adrena Lynn October 7th, 2008 at 11:29 am 49

    Well, Mike. That’s a valid point, and its a scenario that I think any MP would find themselves difficult to be in. But there are two thing to consider.

    The first is that our parliamentary system is the way it is for a reason. It’s to allow stability in our governance, with the exception of 1963-1965 and the recent elections which have produced minority governments. I think about it like this, if one MP can switch over one day because he/she is so PASSIONATELY devoted to this one issue, then what’s to prevent another MP from claiming the same thing if he/she thinks life is better on the governing side? Pretty soon, members will be switching back and forth on so-called ‘principle’ and government may come to a halt with this constant bartering.

    If MPs want to work with the other side to achieve something they believe in, then they should sit as Independents in the meantime, and return to their party once that task is complete. If they feel they are better off in the other party, they can run in a by election to validate the change with voters.

    The other thing is, even as a scenario, I can see Bonnie actually showing the House and her constituents in researching about cures for cancer. What Khan has done and what it has resulted in is virtually nothing: no report, no hearings on his findings, nothing.

    In short, Khan has DONE NOTHING

  50. Adrena Lynn October 8th, 2008 at 5:33 am 50

    To clarify the paragraph on my last comment, I meant to say I think Bonnie chairing a committee for the government studying cancer research would produce actual RESULTS that both the House and her constituents can look at and think “Well, at least she did something.”

    Sorry that I forgot to put the word ‘results’ in.

  51. NGreene October 9th, 2008 at 5:12 am 51

    So who watched the Town Hall on CTV tonight? No one said much, but the low point had to be Bonnie’s “picture” incident. For those who didn’t watch, she took out an old picture of Khan with Dion for the cameras. The intended implication was that Khan really thought highly of Dion becuase they were in a picture together (????). If you extend this logic, I guess it means that Bonnie thinks highly of anyone she has ever been in a picture with. Gee, for someone who has likely had alot of photo ops in her volunteering role, that could be a dangerous case to make. I bet the Conservatives are searching the picture archives now. The time allocated for the town hall was already limited, so to waste time on such as silly and amateur move, was disrespectful to the viewers. Poor, very poor, Bonnie.

  52. A. Frommell October 9th, 2008 at 6:19 am 52

    I stopped in to watch the CTV televised candidates debate in Streetsville last night. Four candidates showed up (NDP, Green, Liberal & Conservative). The NDP candidate, Pinto is just a youngster and was somewhat nervous on film. Good for him that he is getting some experience in the democratic process, but looking at the overall support for the NDP – appears to be very weak. The Green candidate, Casanova, didn’t offer much more either – both just plugging for their leaders and a bit of a support pitch for Dion. Green support seems rather thin.
    The two contenders in the debate were the LPC-Crombie and the CPC-Khan.

    Crombie seemed to want to push a “you crossed the floor” type pitch, which may have resonated with some of her really hard core supporters in the pub, but didn’t add anything to debating the issues of the day. Crombie’s offering of the LPC platform on the economic issues was very shallow, mostly reiterating that the liberals are good managers and Harper is negligent. You could feel the audience was hoping for some substance other than partisan slogans. She was unable to answer any of the audience’s six questions to any depth other than proclaiming her integrity. She finished off the debate by showing what appeared to be a picture of Dion and Khan. This looked more like a desperate attempt to tarnish the CPC candidate.

    Khan handled Crombie’s attack with a calm demeanor explaining to the audience how the liberals had refused to support the riding for so many years and how he and the CPC delivered a massive infrastructure program. Khan seemed to be the only candidate who could answer the audience’s questions and didn’t pitch party sound bites. He seemed to have a good grasp of the economic issues and where the government needs to go on this. I was pleasantly surprised at Khan’s confidence and the fact that he didn’t rise to the bait of Crombie’s personal flame war approach.

    Bonnie Crombie’s personal Khan attack strategy didn’t come across well at all. She needed a convincing win last night. The best she got were a few cheap jabs in.

    The beer was good though.

  53. Viktor Spanovic October 9th, 2008 at 7:01 am 53

    The reason only four candidates showed up was because they didn’t allow Independents. Believe me, it wasn’t for lack of trying.

  54. NGreene October 9th, 2008 at 7:09 am 54

    I have not seen any comments from our Liberal friends about the Biovail/Brian Crombie criminal charges (see post 39 and 41 with links above). What is Bonnie Crombie’s position? What did she know, when did she know it, did she hold any stock in Biovail and sold it while her husband was telling investors everything was fine, and why was this kept from the voters?

  55. Adrena Lynn October 10th, 2008 at 3:26 am 55

    Looks like the Tory workers in Streetsville are getting desperate, so they are filling this space with negative attacks and personal attacks against the Crombie family. Look, I don’t think the issue of Wajid Khan’s overspending in his last election was much of a discussion topic, in fact I doubt it ever came up. Most of the criticism was on his floor crossing. The accusations against Crombie are so far off, I doubt there is even any solid ground that anything was even done improperly.

  56. Adrena Lynn October 10th, 2008 at 6:18 am 56

    Viktor, you’ve pretty much been endorsing Khan at this point. I don’t even know why you’re still running.

  57. Viktor Spanovic October 10th, 2008 at 7:08 am 57

    lol Really? I don’t think saying I prefer him to Bonnie is much of an endorsement. My thoughts on Khan are well documented on my website. Anyways, like I said, I’m not interested in getting into long drawn out debates over democraticspace. If you have any more ‘out of the blue’ comments, e-mail me.

  58. NGreene October 10th, 2008 at 11:01 am 58

    It seems to me that Liberals are in denial about the SEC charges! Please Adrena Lynn I will make it easy for you to see the SEC filing for your self, taken from their website, you may also click on the links below.

    The SEC’s complaint alleges that present and former senior Biovail executives, obsessed with meeting quarterly and annual earnings guidance, repeatedly overstated earnings and hid losses in order to deceive investors and create the appearance of achieving earnings goals. When it ultimately became impossible to continue concealing the company’s inability to meet its own earnings guidance, Biovail actively misled investors and analysts about the reasons for the company’s poor performance.

    ——————————————————————————–

    Additional Materials
    Litigation Release No. 20506
    SEC Complaint

    ——————————————————————————–

    Biovail settled the SEC’s charges and will pay a $10 million penalty. Four current or former Biovail senior executives still face SEC charges: former chairman and CEO Eugene Melnyk; former CFO Brian Crombie; current controller John Miszuk; and current CFO Kenneth G. Howling.

    “This is another case involving the tone at the top of a public company. It demonstrates the Commission’s commitment to holding individuals accountable when they create a corporate culture of fraud and deceit,” said Linda Chatman Thomsen, Director of the SEC’s Division of Enforcement.

    “We allege that Biovail and senior executives engaged in a pattern of systemic, chronic fraud that impacted its public filings of quarterly and annual reports over the course of four years,” added Mark K. Schonfeld, Director of the SEC’s New York Regional Office. “In an effort to conceal the fraud, Biovail’s senior officers intentionally misled the company’s auditors and the investing public, showing their complete disregard for their responsibilities to shareholders.”

    http://www.sec.gov/news/press/2008/2008-50.htm
    http://www.sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2008/lr20506.htm

    So my questions still stand;
    “What is Bonnie Crombie’s position? What did she know, when did she know it, did she hold any stock in Biovail and sold it while her husband was telling investors everything was fine, and why was this kept from the voters?”

  59. Mike October 12th, 2008 at 4:28 am 59

    Further to the SEC charges, this would be the easiest thing for Bonnie to make go away. All she has to say is “I did not sell any Biovail stock during the period when my husband and his fellow Biovail Executives were misleading investors”

    Until she says this, there will always be a question in the voter’s minds

  60. MWoods October 12th, 2008 at 12:30 pm 60

    Bonnie is such a hypocrite. I just received her flyer which says ‘it doesn’t matter where you come from. it matters what you stand for’. it was attributed to an ashraf khan. clearly, she’s making a play for muslim voters. but if she really believes this, then why did she make a point of saying at the beginning of the debate (in polish) ‘i am polish?’.
    maybe nikita/bonnie would like to answer that one. or he spokeswoman lynn, perhaps.

  61. Adrena Lynn October 13th, 2008 at 5:17 am 61

    Looks like the bitterness from Khan supporters is starting to show through. You guys know that Khan is on his way back to Dufferin Mazda so you’re piling on the criticism in order to sway undecideds.

    By the way, my name is ADRENA, not just Lynn. Please try to squint a little next time.

  62. Adrena Lynn October 13th, 2008 at 5:19 am 62

    Also, I am not Bonnie’s spokeswoman. She has plenty of those on her campaign. I am the farthest in terms of actual connections with her campaign although I occassionally volunteered there during the past month. Stop making assumptions.


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