In a Kingston This Week interview Rick Downes said that he has heard at the doorstep that people were worried that Harper would do to Canada what Harris did to Ontario and that the local Conservative candidate Brian Abrams was not a “Red Tory” but a Harris-Harper conservative. Downes claimed he was picking up support from Red Tories. He also said he had detected disaffected Liberals–those who think that it is time for a change in local representation. In a campaign news release Brian Abrams has challenged Peter Milliken to come to the North End of Kingston to explain why his party would add a tax on everything from groceries to home heating and to admit that the carbon tax will cost countless jobs. Meanwhile, there seems to be a dearth of all candidates meetings in the city. Candidates are talking to the press and to small groups of voters but not face to face with each other.